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My 11 year old son has some bat drag going on. Mainly he slots the back elbow to soon and dips his back shoulder causing his front to go up. He also over strides quite a bit. Any drill suggestions? I've been having him do one arm drills but hadn't helped much.
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Typically, one arm drills are for specific issues that need isolation; lead arm bar is an example. Since bat drag is an upper body issue, we can isolate the upper body and not work on the lower body. I have a drill that I have had great success with using a bucket. You can view it on my YouTube channel - Rich Lovell-The Baseball Barn; just search bat drag. To really benefit from a drill to correct flaws, I recommend not using live pitch and for best results, you need approximately 1500 proper reps to make permanent change. Good luck.
I would also recommend the player to slow the swing to 50-69% maximum. Our brain learns better this way.

looks to me like he is very top hand dominate,  its doing all the work and the bottom hand is just in the way,  some one hand drills may actually help with that,  ,  just bottom hand and use full size bat,  not a one hand trainer and don't choke up

Hey John, I had not noticed you had two clips here, so I downloaded them and took a look slowing the swing down in my analysis software. Let's clear a common myth and misconception up first-the back shoulder will be lower during the swing as he rotates his upper body and tilts. This is a natural occurrence depending on the pitch height; low versus high. The lower the pitch, the higher the front elbow and the lower the back shoulder and vice-versa. As far as bat drag goes, it is not extreme. Yes, the back elbow does lead the knob just a little bit, but he corrects fairly quick. His problem is bat path and possibly hand path because he is late in one clip and the other is bad pitch selection-he swings at a high pitch. Also, if you are able to stop the video, stop it at the point his chest faces his front foot and you will notice that his hands are behind his shoulder-another sign of a long swing, bat drag and he is probably going to be late. Unless he is adjusting to an umpire's strike zone and having to swing at pitches out of his hitting zone, then he needs to hit earlier in the count and not get into that 2-strike situation, however in both clips he gets his front foot down in plenty of time, but it is everything after that. His first move is to cast his hands back, lower his back elbow and bar his front arm. This creates a long swing which if he started earlier would probably work, but not ideal or as efficient. I am not a fan of it for younger players because of timing issues, but many players have been very successful using this type of move, most notably, Ted Williams. If you still want to work on the bit of bat drag he has (back elbow leading the knob from Launch into Approach), then the bucket drill I suggested in my previous post is a good one. For the front arm, one arm iso drills are good as Kenneth Shepherd suggests, but I wouldn't recommend using his regular bat and not choking up. I believe this to be a recipe for bad habits and disaster, because the bat is too long and heavy to handle with one arm while trying to work on a swing flaw. You could actually use a band or tubing to engage the brain even more with resistance. For a good explanation through video of bat drag and a few other angles, check my online academy website at , scroll down to the video titled Do You Struggle With Bat Drag? Good luck and let me know if you need additional help.

Thank you all very much for the feedback.  He's been doing a lot of one arm drives and focusing on the bottom hand driving his swing and it's really helped.  Actually hit his first HR last night:)

Thanks again!


 check his elbows to see if he is stacking them, rear elbow under the front elbow, younger not so strong youngsters tend to not position and keep their elbows at their proper distance apart and consequently get them stacked where the top elbow actually tends to almost lead the front elbow. immediately after the hips rotate the shoulders the elbows the arms and hands all go together while taking the barrel to contact, have him hold his bat loosely, place the rear end of the barrel on the surface then lift the barrel straight up,and place it on his shoulder then move the whole upper body back and forth as if he was going to attack the ball without stroking the barrel to contact.

During the approach to contact the shoulders do not/should not rotate they should have an up and down tilt on a lateral axis all on a vertical plane, the tilt should be naturally and rhythmically set up by the pivot of the rear foot and knee, not forced by leaning over sideways and breaking at the waist which forces the batter out of good spinal alignment,

Be sure his arm are are set at the proper distance for his size and that he keeps them properly distanced until he takes the barrel to contact. Any amount of bat drag will never allow a batter to obtain maximum barrel speed, never mistake barrel lag for barrel drag.

Good luck with his problems

Great Base Ball-N

Don Ervin

Good stuff, Don. Sounds like something right out of Mike Epstein's book, Ted Williams. I would say that the part about the shoulders rotating might be a little off though...the shoulders will rotate from Approach to Contact and the tilt is not necessarily set up by the rear foot and leg, although the back leg certainly helps with getting to lower pitches.  The rear knee pinching in initiates the swing causing the rear foot/heal to be pulled in and up and begins the rear hip movement forward and the lead hip left and backward, though to a lesser degree backwards. The tilt is an adjustment made based on the height of the pitch by the front elbow raising up more for a lower pitch and less for a higher pitch, thus the higher the pitch, the less tilt and the lower the pitch the more tilt.

 In my experience, I have found it is not the lack of strength that is the culprit of the back elbow slotting too soon, but poor technique which is usually caused by well meaning, but unknowing parents and coaches yelling for the kid to 'slot' his elbow. Just my take on it, but thought you had some really good stuff there. Cheers.

Hey Richard,

Thanks for your return comments, I will get into them when I get more time than I have at the present time. it is always great to communicate with those like yourself who can talk and relay great knowledgeable baseball, I am in communication/personal contact with baseball people who are still stuck in their old outdated, conventional, uninformed ways, getting technical to them is get in the box and if you like what you see coming hack at it, no prior constructive mind set involved which to me is strictly amateurish. If you would be interested in getting in on the internet and typing in  A-Rod on AARON Judges swing, I would be very interested to hear what your thoughts are on the video and A-ROD's demo and comments.  Speaking of the swing, during my playing times we were taught that from the launch position to contact was a {STROKE} and past contact the barrel follow through was the {SWING} we were even taught to think/look at the barrel movement as {STROKE} to contact and {BARREL SWING} follow through.  GreatBaseBall-N       Don Ervin 


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