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H.S. Tryouts...

Started by Jose M Hernandez. Last reply by Grant Clifford Feb 10. 6 Replies

H.S. tryouts are getting set to begin in our area... Any ideas on how to help a Freshman on getting ready? Thanks.Continue

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Soft Toss?

Started by Grant Clifford. Last reply by Robin Rushing Oct 14, 2015. 8 Replies

More and more I am thinking that soft toss is useless.The angle...  from the side just isn't working for me. It's convenient when an L-screen isn't available or for quick pre-game warmup.. but I…Continue

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where to stand in batters box

Started by Will Laurence. Last reply by Kelly Kleinman Aug 25, 2015. 3 Replies

Where do you teach players to stand in the batters box when hitting?At the highest levels you see everyone as far back in the box as possible, but is this the case for the youth level?I hear "move up…Continue

Tags: standing, stance, box, batters, hitters

Tracking Quality At-Bats

Started by Bill Stanton. Last reply by Richard Lovell Jul 23, 2015. 10 Replies

I'm coaching a new 8U team starting very soon.  Obviously, we will keep score of the games, but I do not want to publish stats for 8 years olds.  Last season I had an 11 year old tell me his OPS was…Continue

Tags: at-bats, confidence, fun, hitting, coach

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Comment by Zach Jacobs on January 21, 2016 at 12:50am
Comment by bill kenik on August 28, 2015 at 10:09pm

rod, from your responses to me, it appears you make many assumptions.

and unsubstantiated at that.

if I am understanding what you've stated, you have somehow concluded or assumed I was talking about swing power after contact has been made.

if I have that correct, I have no idea what you read in my comments to lead you to that conclusion.

another problem I have with your comments is your contradictory statements.

you stated that golfers and loggers don't open their hips. then you state you didn't state this.

you need to reread your posts.

and maybe the problem is you've left out a few key and necessary words.

either way, I presented what you stated that was in conflict with your earlier comments and you just ignored it.

it's hard to have an intelligent, meaningful dialogue if one or more parties doesn't express exactly what they mean.

at the present time, in absence of any other information, all you've done is contradict yourself with respect to your comments to me.

and this includes you stating that I presented something I didn't.

Comment by Rod Haney on August 28, 2015 at 2:21pm

  

    Rich,

     I don't know what time zone you're in ,but if you're in the same one I'm in..

 ......DON'T YOU SLEEP ?????

    E-mail @ midnight ........(you didn't wait for reply I hope )

     I knew you couldn't resist.

     One word reply........RIGHT !

         Because of what you said about encountering argumentative people,I

     need you to understand I don't believe there is a right way or wrong way to

      train a young player to hit.

           There are different ways that produce different results.

            I will love to speak with you on the phone,but I believe our phone

            conversation will be much more productive if we have a good

            understanding of each others mind set.

                To lessen the burden of our e-mails,(and let you get some sleep)

           let's take one topic at a time.

                 And let me appear to be cute and insincere, and ask you if you

            agree that we want the balls' contact with the players' bat to be

            with-in the sweet spot area of their bat. 

                    Correct ???  (Bill....do you want to participate ?)

       Rod

                  

       

Comment by Rod Haney on August 28, 2015 at 1:59pm

 

    Bill............

      I can only reply with what I already told you I assumed.

      And that is when talking about the production of swing power....I thought

     everyone would be talking about the power of a swing that is delivered to

     the ball.

          Not power produced after the bat to ball contact transpired.

           For what ever reason I thought that would be a dumb thing to teach a

      young player.

           So for that assumption .......I apologize.

            Rod

Comment by Richard Lovell on August 28, 2015 at 12:26am

Okay, rod, I just couldn't leave well enough alone..

I was pretty sure I couldn't answer with just a Yes or No...ha! Yes! (I already blew my one word answer, so what the hell)

Now I have to explain: this "selection" as you call it is actually an auto-adjustment the brain makes based on the players perfect swing that he has ingrained over thousands of repetitions...we call it "adjustments on the fly" based on pitch location and type of pitch. The legs play a role as do the shoulders...

As for the hour, I was estimating...maybe I could answer your question in less than an hour. A guy can hope, right?  Okay, I can see your sense of humor now. and yes, I am willing to discuss this with you if you are serious. I would also do a voiceover video with a MLB player showing you what I mean by all of this written word and send it in an email.

I actually answered this question: 

I said,...in the form of a question......''How do the hips produce swing power during the swing ? - My answer was, or at least the essence was that the hips are part of the Kinetic Link and must be utilized in the correct sequence to help produce power in the swing. Technically, the hips do not alone produce power.  The only way to produce power in the swing is by producing torque. Torque is produced by the separation between the hips and shoulders. Power can also be produced through ground force which is created with a weight shift.

Comment by Richard Lovell on August 28, 2015 at 12:25am

Rod,

Yes...

Comment by bill kenik on August 27, 2015 at 11:35pm
this is copied directly from your post from yesterday:
"If opening the hips produces swing power....how come golfers don't do it..
and how come professional loggers don't do it when cutting a tree down with their axe ?"

have a nice day
Comment by Rod Haney on August 27, 2015 at 11:09pm

   Rich,

       Ditto.with your positions............with one possible set of questions.

    (surprised )

        Talk on phone for an hour !!!.............REALLY !

          One quick question......are you saying  (oh boy ) that a young player

       should be taught to select how they are going to swing their bat depending

        on where the ball is traveling ?

         Yes or no will do.    ( L O L  )

   Rod

       

Comment by Rod Haney on August 27, 2015 at 10:51pm

  

   Rich,

       I'm replying in order of receiving.

       Bill,

          I believe you have touched on the missing ingredient.

          I have not said a baseball player,a softball player ,a golfer,or a logger

      doesn't move,twist,....open their hips during the execution of their swing.

           I said,...in the form of a question......''How do the hips produce swing

      power during the swing ?

            You have emphatically pointed out that they all rotate,twist,open                ,initiate hip action during the execution of their swing,''after the club

      head,axe head,and barrel of bat have made contact''with the object they

      were hitting.

               Since I am of the belief the power is supposed to be produced to

       be delivered to the ball or tree,...let me reword my question.......

             How do the players' loggers' and golfers'' hips produce swing

         power.....prior to making contact with their target ?

                 And since I am now curious,..what does the golfer,logger,ball

         player do with the swing power they produce after they made contact

         with the ball and tree ??

                   Rod

              

Comment by Richard Lovell on August 27, 2015 at 7:01pm

I had to break all my long windeness into parts. Hope you can follow:

Rod, (I am ready and I owe you an apology as well. My apologies for misinterpreting your sincerity).I have come across people on here and other forums that just want to be argumentative and aren't willing to listen to other experiences. They already have their mind made up and nothing you say will change it.  And you are welcome. I enjoy discussions such as this and it helps me learn as well. No disrespect taken and I am beginning to understand what you mean and I do not take it as pestering. As I stated in my response, you are truly not being argumentative and looking for answers, etc, I will help in any way I can. So, Fire away...

Let me elaborate on something: I often hear coaches come into my facility that repeat something they have heard, but do not understand the reasoning or purpose behind the statement or hitting "cue", so for that, I commend you on trying to better understand it. I would never expect an apology for trying to expand your knowledge and understanding. I realize that at times the written word can come across in various ways not intended…context and meaning are tough.

 
 
 

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