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Pitcher's front arm- thoughts?

Started by Bill Stanton. Last reply by Michael Richards Dec 22, 2014. 9 Replies

There is quite a bit of debate around what a pitcher should do with his front arm as he drives towards home plate.Glove to chest?Extend glove towards the plate?Is it a front elbow thing or a glove…Continue

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Which Side Of The Rubber Should A Pitcher Use?

Started by Larry Cicchiello. Last reply by Larry Cicchiello Oct 21, 2014. 76 Replies

I've only heard this discussed a couple of times in the last 50 years and would love to hear some opinions on this. Thanks!Continue

Towel Drill?

Started by Justin Zinkovich. Last reply by Thomas Cahill Oct 4, 2014. 10 Replies

Glad to be apart of the group and excited to start posting some discussion.My main question for you is the towel drill, Good or bad? Thoughts?Continue

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Comment by Rich Dunno on September 15, 2015 at 9:21am

Any thoughts?

Everyone by now should understand that Pitching and Hitting have a lot of things in common. Both are "Chain reaction events"......meaning the end results are based on patterns that happen before the "release or impact". And both start at the ground......or at least need to.

Good scouts & coaches can tell if a players is using their "Lower Half" for the most part.  These athletes that utilize their "Lower Half" are recognized by the scouts as the more projectable, more powerful athletes and most desirable....... No coach can deny this.

This is my opinion.......

Hitting starts with a movement backwards called the load followed by a "Ground Force" caused by the back leg. This Ground Force provides the energy that when the front leg braces up correctly.... transfers the energy through the hips causing the core/upper body to rotate at a faster rate (Elastic Energy) that in turn causes the shoulders/hands to deliver the bat at an accelerated rate.......Kinetic Chain Reaction.

Look at how Bryce Harper, Frank Thomas and MLB hit....all have the back foot off the ground which is caused by energy being transferred.

Pitching also starts at the ground.....As the lift leg is going up we should be moving our hips forward causing a pelvic load..... this is what is considered the "Gravitational Phase".... as the lower half moves forward (Loaded Phase) we set up what is considered the "Drive Phase" where the back leg needs to create force against the rubber. When the front leg braces up correctly this energy is transferred to the hips that separate from the upper body causing an "Elastic Energy" that accelerates the "Upper Torso" and this in turn accelerates the arm action that creates faster velocity of the ball........Kinetic Chain Reaction....

Look at Chapman, Clemens, Gooden and Ryan....all have PHENOMINAL LEG DRIVE!

So you see that both are somewhat common in that they both are "Kinetic Chain Reactions" and both start from the ground"

Know this! "Elite Athletes are Elite Athletes because they utilize Ground Force better that average athletes!"........PERIOD!

Hitting...... Here is what I'm getting at. They days of "Squash the Bug" or "Pulling your knee forward" while hitting are OVER!   We do not create energy from just rotating or the back foot of pulling!  We need to create a force that will transfer to the bat......and this energy is considered "Ground Force" that is caused by what the back leg & foot does. Without this force the bat speed suffers. This "Ground Force" is what causes the back foot to leave the isn't from lifting it.

Pitching.....I'm getting away from any coach that tells my son or daughter not to create a force from the back leg! This robs the pitcher from the most powerful source of KINETIC ENERGY that causes the hips to separate......and this is the biggest "Torque point" that causes exceptional velocity.  Also take this "Ground Force" away and arm stress multiplies because the arm has to do all the work to create velocity!!!!



Increase the "Ground Force"............. increase the end result........BAT SPEED AND ABSOLUTE VELOCITY!!!

Train like elite athletes.....and may the "FORCE BE WITH YOU!!!"


Comment by Brian Beehler on January 20, 2015 at 11:27pm

Hey Guys - been playing and coaching for over 35 years and just finished a website that will help middle school, high school and college pitchers become better at the craft. I'd love it if you could check it out and let me know what you think. I'm looking for pitching instructors to provide online coaching to the pitchers registered and I'll be paying. Please let me know if you're interested.

Comment by Phil R. on June 18, 2014 at 10:47am

Hey guys... looking for some top college/pro pitching coaches to collaborate with me on something I'm working on... please email if interested or know anyone who'd be a good fit. Thanks! -Phil

Comment by Don Ervin on April 30, 2014 at 7:02pm


The biggest misconception about major league pitchers is that every body is under the impression that they are all in a perfect  pitching situation baseball wise with a perfect workout and playing set up,{NOT TRUE}, first of all they make as many body and throwing movements mistakes as most non professional pitchers do during each bull pen and pitching outing.Most of them have terrible mechanics and body movements which puts the brunt of the physical work solely on the arm.There are several 10-11and 12yr.old's out there who have had and will have elbow and shoulder surgeries, There certainly is not any way to prevent such injuries but there certainly are ways to lessen the possibility of injury such as, to at least teach each individual how to use their body's as DR, James Andrews and his sports science researchers have brought to the table as to how the pitchers body in movement from the rubber to it's flat back follow through fielding position should operate/function which is within a series of sequenced, timed, chained reactive body movements to be executed at the proper time in their proper sequence, time and place within their body movement. indifference as to how the body does very negatively operate under present pitching movements. Of course this means that those people who have access to attempting to tell aspiring young pitchers what they need to know will have to learn how to teach them what they need to know which is not likely around this part of the country since parents etc here only listen to those who are still stuck back in their day.

Don Ervin

Hey Lantz,

 As the lift knee is brought up and closed off at the belly button and towards the throwing side hip the front hip and upper torso are automatically set into place, without stoppage of movement the hip should then begin it's smooth driven by the drive foot push sideways, forward non forced slide movement as far as possible down the hill leading the way for the stride foot and leg to follow on to stride foot touch, plant down.

Don Ervin

Comment by Lantz Wheeler on April 18, 2014 at 2:58pm

Here's one video I put together that demonstrates how to use the lower body.  Most of the variations I've seen with the wall drill create a pushing type action with the lower body, its a "false" sense of loading the hips.

Comment by Shaun Reed on April 14, 2014 at 12:17pm

Joe Madden Is one of the best managers because of his thoughts and understand of his players and moves on the field.  I agree 1000% with his thoughts.  I have players on my team that have been playing baseball year round for 3 years with no break,  I don't think its the kids, but the parents that don't understand that kids need a break.  I have a kid that his dad gave him 3 weeks off and then took him outside on the first nice day and had him throw a 40 pitch bullpen off the mound without any throwing on flat ground at all.  The kids arm is messed up now.  I rarely see kids that play a single sport and thats it,  Its one season after another without any time of rest and then the kids get burned out and get worn down and fall apart.  By high school they have become a fragment of what they once were with ability and improvement.  I don't understand how all these major league pitchers are having surgery all the time.  I know a 14yr old that is having TJ surgery in a few weeks.  That astounds me!  a 14 that has is having TJ surgery.  Sorry I got on my soap box.  I believe in rest after a season and I am all for kids playing other sports, but at what point are parents hurting their kids by making them play 3-4 sports a year or playing on 2 teams in the same season.  

Comment by Shaun Reed on April 14, 2014 at 12:07pm


Comment by Bill Stanton on April 14, 2014 at 11:23am

Joe Maddon, TB Rays manager commenting on the rash of pitching injuries in MLB this early in the season:

"Sometimes you have to look underneath the surface and I tend to agree it has a lot to do with youth sports and travel teams and multiple travel teams and kids pitching to win when they're really young and throwing too many pitches. I think the more recent epidemic curiously might be tied to what they're doing before they even get here professionally."

Comment by Rich Dunno on March 13, 2014 at 3:09pm
How important is "Leg Drive" and "How do you teach it?"
Comment by Bill Stanton on March 11, 2014 at 9:56pm

“I view pitchers just like thoroughbred race horses,” the manager said. “You know, after a racing season, they turn them out on the farm and just let them naturally rebuild. Whether it’s right, wrong or indifferent, that’s my thought and opinion. You have to give them time to naturally recover."  - John Farrell


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